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Daily 面包 Mailbag: Canelo-Golovkin, Hagler, ATG List, More

The Daily 面包 Mailbag returns with Stephen "面包man" Edwards tackling topics such as Canelo Alvarez vs. Gennadiy Golovkin, looking back at Marvin Hagler, his personal top 10 list, and much  more.

Hi 面包man

我以前见过您对其他运动和拳击比较的兴趣,所以我想我会过去。

In the UK (my home) the #1 sport by a long way is football (soccer) and in the last 15 years the consensus #1 team/country has been Barcelona/Spain. This is largely attributed to the way their academy's are run at youth level with an emphasis on having a ball at your feet rather than more physcial training until a later age. 

一段时间以来,在英国的年轻人设置受到了广泛的批评,因为它没有采用这种方法,与欧洲大陆上较高的球员相比,这种方法导致后来的技术能力/技能水平较低。

我的问题是,在青年/青少年拳击教学方法之间是否有比较? 不同国家/地区之间的业余水平,如果是,那么哪个水平做得好/不好?

在转为职业选手之前,您对年轻拳击手的关注重点是什么?

Loving the lockdown mailbag, thanks for taking the time.

Kind Regards
Tom Richards (Bristol, UK)

面包’回应:我认为拳击手有不同的发展水平。拳击是一项技能运动,其次是体育运动。通常,将运动能力放在首位,将技能放在第二位。我将专注于倒序,首先关注技能,然后是运动能力。我也将从10岁开始培训。战士平均转为职业球员约20岁。一些年轻,老练但具有扎实的业余背景和世界一流抱负的扎实的战斗机在20岁时转为职业运动员。

So if the intense training started at 10 then you could go through phases of development for 8 years. The more advanced and better natural athletes could turn pro at 18 after 8 years of training. The ones who developed a little slower could sort of have those post grad years and still turn pro at 20.

Throughout the initial phases fundamentals and technical ability would be focused on. General boxing condition a fighter gets in the gym and running in the morning say 3x a week is all they would need at that introduction point. As the fighters progress and get in their later teens, then a more advanced conditioning can be implemented because the blunt trauma and force of being hit by pro fighters with smaller gloves have to be factored in as you get closer to turning pro.

我还要补充一点,应该为战士们提供有关健康,营养和资金管理的小型课程。这消除了他们职业生涯后期的许多问题。

但是,在装箱过程中,这实际上很难真正实现,因为培训师有点像个人承包商。每个人都做自己的事情,然后将他们的成品介绍给世界进行评判。拳击是独一无二的。但是在一个理想的世界中,我认为培训对于年轻人来说可能会更统一’很难,尤其是在美国。

人们必须记住的关于技能运动的一件事是’刚开始时就很难对他们好。显然,总是有怪胎的人可以在介绍后尽早做事。但是总的来说,技能运动的基线不是刚开始时就擅长于此。当您在技能运动中做熟练的事情时看起来很尴尬’是新手。您必须反复练习一次积极的技巧。直到您不再需要考虑它为止。如果您在20岁时从10岁开始以正确的方式进行操作,那么’根深蒂固。在技​​巧方面,您必须创造积极的肌肉记忆。

Hello 面包man - your mailbag is keeping me sane during this ludicrous time. So much so I have let a backlog stack up so I can enjoy them on a binge-read. Pathetic, i know, but the lockdown has given me some weird new routines! With no boxing on, i have to make my own fun.

I wanted to ask you a question about 'the eye test'. 我赢了dered... if a fighter enters your gym, what do you look for? what do you ask them to do? What can they do to turn you off -- what's a big red flag for you as a coach?

您过去在电视上从远处看到的战斗机看起来像货物。向您展示了您想看到的所有内容,但并没有以您认为的方式呈现出来?您认为他们在哪里出了错?

与之相反的是...哪些战斗机从未通过您的视力测试,但后来又超出您的想象?他们是怎么到达那里的?他们有什么你没看到的...或者他们在这过程中又增加了一些东西?

我觉得这很有趣,与您的生意一样多, 手工艺一定在看别人看不到的东西。我很好奇您做出了哪些内部决策以及这一切如何发生。希望您有任何见解。

Some intriguing match-ups -- who you picking?

Jarron Ennis v Danny Garcia in 2020

Haney v Teofimo Lopez in 2020

Usyk v Chris Byrd at HW

Duran v Pac at WW

Toney v Whyte at HW

Canelo v GGG 3-这次您给GGG赢得点头的几率是多少?如果可以的话,他必须怎么做才能动摇法官?你会告诉他做什么?
All the best for the future,
Giuseppe, London

面包’s Response: Good question. Obviously you look for body structure and physical disposition. Potential Elite athletes can often times have a look to them that you just know. I look at how they warm up and where they are in their skillset. If they haven’t boxed then most likely they won’t have their FEET in proper position. But that’s ok. When building a building you start at the bottom not the top. The feet and stance are the starting points.

Many things can turn off a trainer with values. I actually don’t want to get close to a kid until I see certain character traits. I’ve had kids tell me they want to spar the first day. That’s an automatic turn off. Talking back. Talking while, I’m talking. Being on their cell phones. Being an accessible kid that listens to everyone’s opinion about what he should be doing. I can go on and on about turn offs.

But if I go in exact order. I look to see how long it takes a kid to get dressed and ready to work. It disgust me to see a fighter come to the gym and take more than 10 minutes to get dressed and on the floor ready to work. The first thing I ask them is to see is their foot work and stance. I ask them to move while staying in the proper stance. Everything starts with that. I even do that with fighters with experience because often times a fighter can get good at doing the wrong thing. Then we go from there.

让我用战斗机在世界一流水平上取得的任何成就作为我的下一个评论。通常,批评家会用批评来做。

我对Anselmo Moreno,Jorge Linares和Francisco Bojado的评价很高。莫雷诺的职业生涯非常好。他以最轻量级的方式前进。我认为他应该成为某些P4P列表的后半部分。他击败维克·达奇林人的胜利给我留下了深刻的印象。如果我’没错,莫雷诺拥有10或11个实名制辩护。我以为他会战胜Abner Mares。 Mares确实向我展示了一些与粗糙的体积战术相抗衡的技术,以克服纯拳击手的问题。但是,尽管如此,莫雷诺在那场战斗之后确实退场了。他只有27岁,但从那以后他一直在挣扎。我认为他有潜力成为拉丁裔Pernell Whitaker。我真的很喜欢他的节奏和拳击能力。我不知道他怎么了。

我一个人在脱衣舞俱乐部看了豪尔赫·利纳雷斯vs奥斯卡·拉里奥斯。这是伯纳德·霍普金斯对温基·怀特的底牌。我不能’相信利纳雷斯(Linares)多么流畅,流畅和熟练。考虑到他当时的身材和能力,我认为他当时大约21岁或22岁,我对自己说这个孩子看起来像是HOF和4分区冠军。我整晚都在看着他。他仍然有机会成为HOF和4分区冠军。但是他的一些损失令人困惑。他只输给了一位我认为比他更好的战士,那就是洛马琴科。利纳雷斯(Linares)被科德(KOD)视为4x战斗中的最爱。它’看到如此优秀的战斗机发生这种情况真是奇怪。

在我看来,Francisco Bojado就像奥斯卡·德拉霍亚。当拳头处于中等漂移状态时,他具有改变拳头速度的独特能力。他的才华在2000年代初期是无与伦比的。实际上,有些人认为他比2000年转为职业球员的米格尔·库托(Miguel Cotto)更好。’t believe he didn’成为世界冠军。

但是我’我从每架战斗机中学到了东西。一世’我们已经了解到美学会令人陶醉。一世’我们了解到,一个战斗机可能比另一个战斗机更好,并且无法击败他。一世’我们看到所有这些战士都输给了比他们更好的战士。在利纳雷斯’如果他被战士一贯制止,’s better than. I’我们了解到,将战斗机按技能进行分类并不是一种完整的评估方法,因为沙砾,韧性,抗冲击性,智商和持续的训练是无法做到的’不会显得耀眼,但它们可以在正面交锋中产生更大的影响。

那些没有’通过我的眼力测试,结果很好…hmmm..It’我要说的是对战士的视力测试。但是以下战士没有’不要让我震惊,但我知道它们会比大多数早。

 Josh Taylor passed my instinct test. I liked his character. I liked his ambition. I liked how he improvised in tough spots. I liked how he wasn’t a front runner. He’s not the most talented kid I’ve seen but I told everyone who would listen that Taylor would be a world champion.

朱利安·威廉姆斯(Julian Williams)小时候’t highly regarded. He never won a National Tournament or even went to the semi finals of one. 但是我 just saw untapped potential in him because he had minimum resources and lack of structure as an amateur trying to turn pro. He had a good amateur record of 77-10 but I felt like he could be a better pro with structure and more resources. Out of the more talented kids who turned pro from 2010-12 near his weight he was the least regarded but my instincts told me he would break through at some point.

Andre Ward. I watched Andre Ward as a prospect and I thought he was good but he tried to fight like Roy Jones. He did a good job but he didn’t have Jones’s one punch striking ko power and he didn’t have Jones’s right hand. Ward was left hand dominant. Then I saw him a little later reaching contender status and because he wasn’t offensively dominant he didn’t knock my socks off. Because of his Gold Medal Status mentally I wanted to see a Ray Leonard, Roy Jones type of fighter. I had to check myself.

As Ward reached he championship level. I compartmentalized my process of thinking regarding him. I realized that he was a well rounded genius with a hybrid style that could do anything he had to do in a boxing ring. He just kept winning even though he wasn’t scoring spectacular kos. By 2012 when beat Chad Dawson I knew would be a HOF.

特伦斯·克劳福德(Terence Crawford)小时候,我告诉几个同事他会比艾德里安·布罗纳(Adrien Broner)更好。我告诉他们,拳击不是马拉松比赛,而是短跑比赛,而布罗纳(Broner)较早就完成了比赛,因为他早早加速了比赛。不是因为他好得多。但是当一切都变得平稳时,我认为克劳福德会更好。当地作家乔治·汉森(George Hanson)讲述了我如何告诉他克劳福德(Crawford)将成为2011-12年的商品的故事。我看着克劳福德’专注于他的年轻饥饿的教练的团队结构。它’就像一个聪明的孩子独自上课,没有其他学生去找老师’的注意。我只是觉得他会繁荣。

常常是本能,知道你在做什么’重新看待并拥有良好的记忆力会导致您在与战斗机打交道时是对还是错’s projections. It’这并不是一门精确的科学,但是随着您的发展,您知道该寻找什么,并且知道不仅限于人才。支持小组,父母,个性,社交媒体页面,他们对长者的尊重程度,他们有多少个孩子,有多少个女人,她们对指导的反应等。我可以做很多事情’甚至不列出它们。但是,请相信我,不仅有才华和可以战斗的人。

我马上出来说’哈格勒迷我喜欢观看他在YouTube上的老打斗的重播。好东西。就是说,在过去几个邮袋中的所有讨论和见解之后,我终于崩溃了,把它放开后看着哈格勒-伦纳德。和…是的,我为伦纳德打出7-5。尽管我认为118-110卡是伪造的(’不会发生在战斗机上)。像很多人一样,我确实相信戒指尺寸对伦纳德有利。但是我可以’不能理解我的一生,为什么黑格勒(Hagler)像他在早期回合中那样战斗…正统并试图装箱?带有SRL的盒子?这是一件骄傲的事吗?他是否想证明自己也可以做到?如果他怎么办’d像殴打赫恩斯和穆加比的寻求并摧毁敌人的笨手一样出来吗?这如何改变战斗的动力?

也…玩假设游戏…如果哈格勒赢了这场战斗怎么办?他会成为八十年代的战士吗?他会退休吗?我一直都知道他’d在伦纳德之战之前就一直在认真考虑退休问题…真的?如果他赢了,他会骑车进入日落还是尝试比赛/超越蒙松’捍卫冠军的记录?

面包’s回应:如果哈格勒赢了这个决定,我认为他会和伦纳德抗衡。那将使他获得13次成功的冠军防守。蒙松(Monzon)有14。

I think Hagler was sort of a cooker. The Hearns fight was an aberration. He could fight in that attack style but against Hearns he was a Kamikaze. Hagler never fought like that before or after. What he was, was a heavy handed, hard nosed technician. Hagler wasn’t an exclusive come forward or back foot fighter. People remember the Hearns fight but look close. His more natural style was say Tony Sibson or Fulgencio Obelmejias.

我不’并没有引起哈格勒对伦纳德的争议。每当我在社交媒体上阅读支持者讨论战斗的内容时,我都会开始关注一些内容。哈格勒早早放弃了太多回合,但是没有’不能控制得足够晚。

It’s simple math. He lost the first 4 rounds. If he’s going to win he has to win the next 7 out of 8 to win 115-113. He didn’t. His best case is a draw. The conventional scoring is Leonard 7 or 8 rounds. Hagler 4 or 5. The goal post get moved on this fight because of PRIDE and dislike for the Pretty Boy Ray Leonard.“The Gloves were too BIG.” False 10oz gloves. “The ROUNDS were too short.”False no one complained about the rounds when Hagler kos Hearns and Mugabi in 12 round fights, BEFORE he fought Leonard.

至于打架。哈格勒·瓦森’t在前4轮中完全是正统的。但这是他的主要立场。我认为他试图超越伦纳德。每个人都知道伦纳德(Leonard)在营地里有很多南爪打陪伴伙伴。我认为哈格勒认为他会根据自己的期望将其转给伦纳德。有时,即使是伟大的战士也可以超越自己。

我也认为哈格勒’的气质不只是他的立场使他付出了战斗。哈格勒没有’开始烹饪直到第五轮。但是也许他的血没有’在那之前一直流淌着,他没有’直到5号才赶上他的节奏。有时候’就是这样。如果他会出来抽烟,也许伦纳德会装箱并移动并绑住他,而他不会’完成一样强。赫恩斯和穆加比站起来,用火扑灭。有时你用水灭火。密切注意那场战斗。在那一刻,哈格勒没有伦纳德那么新鲜。他被气死了,因为他知道他必须降低压力。如果他起步更快,也许他会更早加油。雷·伦纳德(Ray Leonard)是深水鲨。

Yes if Hagler wins he’FOD。那场战斗意义重大。它从字面上确定了FOD。如果您想到80年代。霍姆斯(Holmes)到1985年变得有点老。桑切斯(Sanchez)于82年去世。泰森(Tyson)是泰森(Tyson),但他的十年生涯可能开始得太晚了。查韦斯有案,但他还没有成为主流。查韦斯更多地被认为是90年代的战士。是伦纳德或哈格勒。伦纳德赢了。

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面包,

感谢您提供详细的ATG前10名列表。这是非常有教育意义的,并且是对拳击历史的真正了解。首先,我只是想澄清一下您的ATG列表是否也一直是P4P列表。它们是一样的吗?

One thing that struck me was that unlike other sports, the list contained all boxers from yesteryear with SRL being the most recent at #10. It goes to show that despite all the advantages of modern living these legends really have set an incredibly high standard and stood the test of time.

因此,就像我30多岁时一样,自90年代以来,我真的只对拳击手有相当的了解。所以我的问题是,谁将成为您的ATG前10名,但仅计算90年代以后的工作?

为了什么’我的价值(不是很多)是我的,但我欢迎更多的见识和教育:

排名第一的帕奎奥-没有其他人在这么多的重量部门赢得过冠军。与所有人战斗,并在41岁时仍击败年轻的枪支。

#2梅威瑟-不败,有史以来最大的票房明星。 但是他是否可以继续前进并赢得更高的部门以提升ATG名单?

#3罗伊·琼斯(Roy Jones)-P4P很棒,称号为MW至HW。塔弗1号后的职业使他感到沮丧。

#4 Whitaker - long reigning P4P great, 4 division champ.

#5 Hopkins-MW冠军头衔的20场防守。在40年代后期服用大型LHW头皮之前。难以置信

#6德拉霍亚(De La Hoya)-6个分区的世界冠军遇到了最大的挑战,’赢得所有胜利,但做出一些有争议的决定。 

#7特立尼达-WW冠军的17道防线。 3重量冠军。击败DLH和Whitaker

#8 Lennox Lewis-90年来最好的硬件’s,为他的损失报仇。击败霍利菲尔德,泰森和维塔利。

#9霍利菲尔德(Holyfield)-ATG排名较高,但必须降低CW的运行速度,这种情况发生在80年代。与查韦斯类似,后者不’t列出结果。

#10病房-2磅冠军。击败SMW的所有顶级球员,然后击败并击败了真正的LHW冠军。职业差距和提早退休伤害了他。

病房只是要阻止卡内洛和洛马,但这可能会改变。

Cheers,
Will
Bristol - UK

面包’s Response: My ATG list was also my P4P top 10 ever.

噢,我是1990年以来我的十大P4P玩家。所以基本上是过去30年中的十大战斗机。这比大多数人想象的要难,因为安置罗伊·琼斯,弗洛伊德·梅威瑟,佩内尔·惠特克和曼尼·帕奎奥比任何人想象的都要艰难。但是,当我研究我的《 ALL TIME TOP TOP 10》时,我可以这么说,罗伊·琼斯(Roy Jones)在对他的简历进行取证检查后,就最接近了。它’要在160到175之间赢得冠军头衔将变得更加困难,然后从135到147赢得冠军头衔。身体成分从中量级到轻量级的变化更大。
Over the last 30 years boxing has produced several fighters who were great ligthweights and great welterweights or close to great. Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Oscar de La Hoya and Terence Crawford all look to be great at both weights.

自1990年以来,只有罗伊·琼斯(Roy Jones)和伯纳德·霍普金斯(Bernard Hopkins)才是出色的中量级选手和轻量级选手。
1. Roy Jones
2.更艰难,因为我可以’不要把帕奎奥放在弗洛伊德身上,因为’如此接近,但弗洛伊德赢得了正面交锋。但佩内尔·惠特克(Pernell Whitaker)有理由要比两者都好,但两者都是比惠特克更大的明星。所以今天我要说弗洛伊德·梅威瑟。对我来说,决胜局是弗洛伊德(Floyd)赢得了初中重量级冠军3倍。但它’基本上甚至在梅威瑟(Mayweather)和惠特克(Whitaker)以及惠特克(Whitaker)和吃豆人(Pacman)之间。
3a. Pernell Whitaker
3b. Manny Pacquiao
5. Evander Holyfield
6.朱利奥·塞萨尔·查韦斯(Julio Cesar Chavez)-我想您忘记了查韦斯。他在90年代断断续续地统治了6年,在十年间一直位居P4P第一,直到1993年。他必须成为过去30年的前10名战士
7. Bernard Hopkins
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Felix Trinidad
10. Oscar De La Hoya

The 90s and 00s were underrated golden eras. I have a hard time leaving James Toney, Ricardo Lopez, Andre Ward, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Marquez, Roman Gonzalez and Joe Calzaghe off the list. I didn’t consider Terence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez or Vasyl Lomachenko because they are still super active.
 
但是我 don’t know who to take off. I really don’t. I feel horrible that Ricaord Lopez is not on the list. He’s the most consistent great fighter I’ve ever studied. I’ve watched all of his championship fights and he never has a bad day. He’s ON in every fight.

老实说,最后几个地点可以与大约8或9名战士互换,但我’在某种意义上来说,他们是最突出的战斗机,而不是P4P。

What's good 面包?

您最近的几个邮袋已经解决了减肥问题。您显然不喜欢这种运动,我必须同意,这对这项运动有害,对拳击手本身也有害。没有它,我们会更好。但是,我必须承认,我很着迷于这些团队在营地减轻体重的能力……然后剥离20磅以上的水进行称重。 更令人印象深刻的是他们如何在接下来的24小时内为战斗机补水,并使他恢复为准备进行冠军争夺的精英水平的运动员。

这是现代游戏的基本做法,我认为我是成功和失败(不幸)的最重要方面之一。我的问题是,史蒂芬·爱德华兹如何为战士们减轻体重?

我了解有些技术可以为您提供专有信息,但是您能提供的任何东西都会吸引人。

您什么时候开始限制液体?每个人都使用热水浴缸技术还是还是喜欢塑料和桑拿房?在接下来的24小时内,您将如何处理-您喜欢什么餐点和液体?我认为必须为所有事情制定准确的时间表? 最后,您曾参与或听说过有关疯狂削减的任何疯狂故事吗?

Take care.
Don in Houston

面包’s回应:显然我可以’t get into exact detail because the game is to be sold not to be told. 但是我 will say a few things.

首先,每个人每天都不会失去20+的水。那’s what’减肥如此危险。有些人正在流失水分,矿物质,碳水化合物,血浆和肌肉。

一般而言,战斗机在营地中的重量不应超过其体重的10%。例如,如果一名战士是中量级(160磅),他想走的高度不超过176磅。 16磅的体重比他的体重高10%。现在,这样做的关键是在健身房里每天喝一加仑水,而重量要超过重量的10%。战斗人员在整个营地都需要充分补充水分。如果不是’然后,它们将不切水而是切成其他东西,并且可能会损坏而无法修复。

I’我应该什么时候开始减肥等等就不会进入。因为那是赢得比赛或输掉比赛的区别。我要说的是’如果做得对,这可能非常有效。削减的时机和战斗机’饮食构成一切。如果时间到了并且饮食干净,那么就可以做到。一世’我做了几次。

As far as the rehydration again 我赢了’不要说战士应该喝什么。一世’我看过一切。我要说的是,一旦他们离开体重秤,他们应该立即开始喝酒。

The key to this, is being detailed. Leaving any detail out will disrupt the weight cut. Fighters are not detailed in general. And the ones who are or hire detailed people have an extra edge because taking physical punishment and losing weight is not a normal human concept. It’s more beneficial to get bigger and add mass to absorb punishment. But boxers lose weight and try to put it back on in 36 hours in order to do it. It’s unnatural to say the least.

Hey 面包

一个快速的问题是想知道您是否可以对“黑色凶手排”战斗机进行排名。您认为有多少会赢得冠军?

Coach Vic from Philly

面包’回应:成员是可可·基德,查理·伯利,霍尔曼·威廉姆斯,老虎·韦德,杰克·蔡斯,劳埃德·马歇尔,贝特·莱特尔和埃迪·布克。以便’共有8名普通成员,但往往包括更多的战斗人员。

It’很难对它们进行明确的排名,因为它们的记录与结果混合在一起,因为它们都没有’相同的精确尺寸或在相同的时间达到相同的重量。但是,尽管所有人都是伟大的战士,但我可以将他们分成几类。

1. Charley Burley, Holman Williams, Cocoa Kid
2. Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker
3. Tiger Wade, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell

面包 - Love the mailbag and really appreciate the extra long ones during this quarantine. A couple weeks back I read what you wrote about focusing on a fighter’s jogging time in relation to their athleticism and speed stamina. A few questions about roadwork:

1. How hard do you like your fighters to push themselves during their roadwork? You mention wanting to see them do 3 miles in 18 minutes. Is that them doing a 100% flat out, being gassed at the end or is that them going around 80-85%, a hard but comfortable pace? 

2.战斗机的重量对您有影响吗?它’比起140-150磅的家伙,一个200磅以上的家伙要跑6分钟英里要难得多。
3.您觉得在公路跑步机上跑步会有所不同吗? 就个人而言,跑步时我发现跑步机容易得多,因为它可以跟上我的步伐。 
4. 最后,您通常每天要跑多远?
Hope you’re staying safe and healthy
JH

面包’回应:1.在最近这个时代,新的体育科学专家和旧的学校方法之间存在着争论。有人认为应该放弃长距离奔跑。其他人则认为要走很长一段路。

I personally think that you need both to be successful. Short explosive sprints will definitely enhance a fighters overall explosiveness and burn loads of fat in a shorter period of time. And nice distance runs are also part of building a fighter’s endurance, gaining rhythm and building muscle endurance. Fighters need both in my opinion explosive muscles and endurance muscles. Both will get activated depending on what type of fight it is.

一场拳击比赛错综复杂。有时候,您需要能够保持稳定的步伐。说说萨尔瓦多·桑切斯在下一轮比赛中的表现如何。有时候,您可能在战斗中陷入困境,并且需要能够以野蛮的方式进入比赛,比如说雷·伦纳德在战斗后期做汤米·赫恩斯。我相信您必须同时训练两个齿轮。

当我说18分钟内达到3英里时,我的意思是每英里保持6分钟的步伐。没有人可以在连续3英里内以100%的速度运行,但世界一流的战斗机应该能够保持这种速度或接近它。

但是,并非每次运行都需要遵循这一步伐。有时候,轻松的轻松恢复奔跑对于战斗机来说只是为了获得战斗节奏。向后奔跑,侧向奔跑,边跑边打太极拳等。奔跑是所有条件的基础,但是奔跑有多种类型,我认为拳击手是独特的运动员,需要沉迷于所有类型的奔跑中。

2. Yes sure weight makes a difference. 我不’不能期望重量级的人能够像轻量级的人一样奔跑,但是您可能会感到惊讶,一些更大的家伙会移动。

3. Again I think you can improvise with any type of running. Sometimes in cold weather cities a treadmill run is the only thing available. So yes treadmills can be good, especially if the coach is present and he can turn up the speeds and uphill to simulate more effort. Treadmills are very effective.

你不做的一件事’不想养成跑步这么慢的习惯’没有任何齿轮可以踢。我见过有人吹牛奔跑10英里,但实际上需要3个小时。我可以在3个小时内走10英里…

4.确实取决于战斗机及其战斗几轮。每个人都是不同的,大多数培训师都有不同的理念。

我认为3,4和5英里的长距离跑步非常好。我会一直保持10英里的跑步速度,因为除非战斗机是个怪胎,否则我认为这会使他减慢速度并把他烧死,特别是如果他当天晚些时候必须在体育馆训练并晶石等。我最喜欢的战斗机之一是特里尼达(Felix Trinidad)。特立尼达曾经参加马拉松比赛。他的耐力是虚幻的,但似乎没有人意识到他已经28岁了。我不’认为战斗人员需要参加马拉松比赛才能打12轮,仅需36分钟。

Again this is not an exact science. Some fighters need more miles, some recover easier, some need less to get through a 12 round fight. The key in my opinion is recovery. At the end of the day, the fighter is running because he’s training to box. So a fighter has to be fresh when it’s time to practice his skill of BOXING in the gym.

在隔天,我也喜欢冲刺,丘陵和400m滑道。这取决于营地的哪一部分,等等。’我进行了一次全身锻炼,但实际上对膝盖的影响很小,我每周也建议这样做。养成疗程后,您就可以对其进行修饰和完善,并根据自己的身体进行定制。

Dear 面包,

Hope you're well.

I - GGG and fights that never happened

We always talk about GGG's lackluster middleweight run.

我认为我们都同意他的最高版本对于Sturm,Martinez(2013/2015)和Cotto(2015)来说太过分了。

How would those scalps have affected his legacy?

II - Head to Head

我知道你是GGG的男人。但是您也是Canelo的拥护者和捍卫者。

您曾经提到GGG在面对Canelo时从他的巅峰版本滑落。

但是我 think we might disagree regarding the degree of the step he lost.

2014年的Golovkin与2018年的Golovkin相去甚远。他所依赖的工具在他的运动巅峰时期就需要他。

当然,有些具有特殊风格的特种运动战士的战斗力远远超过35岁。

但是,即使像RJJ这样的伟大人物也大幅下降。 GGG不是霍普金斯或弗洛伊德,不是一个绝对的运动型家伙,还是一名压力斗士,他的失误更加明显。 33岁的弗洛伊德和37岁的弗洛伊德之间的差距更窄。因此,无法将他与30年代后期的一些成功战斗机相提并论。尽管如此,知道卡内洛曾经是并且正处于他的巅峰时期,可能达到顶峰。

Knowing he took substances for their first fight.

Knowing what he did after the fight (168, 175).

知道人们有GGG赢得了拳击比赛的第一名,而在拳击界赢得了80%的冠军,而第二名却不多,您将如何:

-评估他们的绝对峰值160(GGG 2014 vs Canelo 2019)
-不管评委如何,对戈洛夫金的演出质量有何影响?
(他以37/38击败P4P国王Canelo击败了28名A-sider冠军)
-Do we give G enough credit?

我知道你们俩都爱他们,但感觉就像最近两年让您对GGG的把握不太一样。

Don't feel like defending. I love them both. 但是我'm unconditionally in support of GGG in this specific opposition as I deeply feel he got wronged by, as you say, his birthday.

Take care.
HUGO

面包’回应:批评者以某种方式证明GGG从来没有那么出色,因为他已经滑到35岁以上。好吧GENIUS,那就是躲开他的地步,等到他滑倒然后与他战斗!

GGG早于2013年就可用于Sturm。他在2009-10赛季已经准备就绪,但从未出手。我会选择他击败ko的Sturm,Martinez和Cotto。当然,因此他的遗产会更好。

You make a great point. A relaxed athletic boxer puncher usually ages better than a pressure fighter. I equate GGG to Chavez and Hagler as far as style and athleticism. Hagler retired at 32-33. Chavez was no longer Chavez by 1996 when he fought Oscar. He was 35.

我赢了’不要对GGG vs Canelo Prime给予过多的评价。不幸的是,这是拳击,每一场胜利’是素数上的素数。如果他们的职业今天停止,Canelo将被认为拥有更好的职业。

However I do think we discredit GGG too much as a whole. He’s a HOF. He’s a great contemporary fighter. That decision in the first fight cost him ATG status considering what Canelo did afterwards. GGG needed that decision. I thought he won but honestly I wasn’t overwhelmed with his actual performance. It’s a shame but it’s life.

我尊重他们都是伟大的战士。我仍然。而且’可以高度重视两者。一些指关节迷’t get that. 我不’不要再想GGG了。但是我确实希望他能在他的遗产方面取得比Canelo更好的表现,但是Canelo与此有关。他打了屁股。 GGG不能’t just overwhelm him like most thought and the perception of GGG has changed with those two fights. Boxing is unforgiving in that way. GGG needs redemption at 38 and most likely he won’t get it.

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Comment by aboutfkntime on 06-04-2020

[QUOTE = Doubledagger; 20592327]我不会重复自己。这就是所有BULLSHIEET! 您将不会听到支持Canelo的任何一位媒体分析师,评论员或现任/前任拳击手,甚至是一位拳击手。 Not a single one! Why? Because they all know it's…

Comment by TonyGe on 06-03-2020

[QUOTE = Doubledagger; 20592327]我不会重复自己。这就是所有BULLSHIEET! 您将不会听到支持Canelo的任何一位媒体分析师,评论员或现任/前任拳击手,甚至是一位拳击手。 Not a single one! Why? Because they all know it's…

Comment by Doubledagger on 06-03-2020

[QUOTE = aboutfkntime; 20592077]您只是另一个gggoofball:lol1: 欢迎来到boxingscene btw,尽管...我们已经有足够的借口小丑 任何认为Miguel Cotto是中量级的人都不应在这里 真正的中量级人士可以准备自己的体重,最高可达160磅,…

Comment by aboutfkntime on 06-03-2020

[QUOTE = Doubledagger; 20590974]这纯粹是完全有偏见的废话!!! Canelo在中量级比赛中没有参加过GGG比赛,Canelo在中量级比赛中已经战斗了多年。中量级的体重从155磅到160磅不等,因此Canelo多年来一直在战斗…

Comment by Doubledagger on 06-02-2020

[QUOTE=aboutfkntime;20590653]nah, that is nonsense 戈洛夫金(Golovkin)粉丝不断重复这种胡说八道,但事实并非如此 pacfans过去一直指责梅威瑟拖延了战斗。 ...但是他们永远无法解释为什么曼尼不仅仅称呼弗洛伊德的虚张声势,…

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